Yeah. What I do is um I make sure that, that they’re comfortable and they know what to expect and then I actually walk them to that provider so that way it’s like a warm hand-off, um this is a good person, they’re gonna listen to you, um you don’t have to worry about judgment, cause a lot of my you know guys are MSM, so they talk a lot about their sexual abuse or types of sex they have, and so uh sometimes so I have to make sure that even the provider is comfortable with um having this dialogue with the client.” [Staff, Pediatric Clinic] Participants explain that procedures which allow the internal referral to be made upon discharge of the patient are more likely to result in a successful referral. “I think the biggest thing is being able to get the appointment upon discharge, um, prior to leaving the clinic. Because it’s fresh on their mind, you know, they can – they can get the appointment that – that works for them. Right? Because they can talk to a live person to say, “Does this time work? Yes? No? Whatever?” versus after the fact, which is oftentimes, just made for the patient and then the patient’s informed of it, which may or may not work.” [Provider, Main Clinic] Referral paperwork which can be completed electronically using the medical record system are cited as a facilitator of successful referrals. This method removes some burden off of staff and providers, being easier to remember, less cumbersome to complete. A provider expressed belief that this process even improves the success rate of patients linking to the referred services. “I think that for the, um, the referrals that we can make electronically in Epic, that’s – that’s been a huge burden off of the providers, the primary care providers in that, you know, we don’t have to go get another form to fill out in order to make the appointment. It’s – I feel like it’s definitely improved the, um, success rate of patients linking to these services versus paper form because with the paper form, some – some of them will just collect the forms and then schedule after the fact and call the patients and then you run the risk of, you know, not having an accurate phone number or patients having changed phone numbers. And so it’s kind of allowed us to just go ahead and make the appointment also which, you know, benefits our patients.” [Provider, Main Clinic] Participants explained that facilitating successful referrals at this treatment center requires providers and staff to play an active role in the full pro...

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Yeah. Report to where? Where were you supposed to report to? The signs that said, “All aliens must report.” Xxxxxxxxxx: You have to be registered. You have to be known in the police station. You’re an alien. I’m not a citizen.

Yeah. Yeah, and Xx and Xxxx and I had different ideas from our different experiences at other campuses. I had just come from teaching and working in Israel, and Xx had been in England, and Xxxx had been in France, so we had a lot of different ideas. Right away, we came up with a range of things. Xx said, “Let’s have a graduate student conference as part of this, where the graduate students who worked in the summer with the faculty and the general public get to present their papers, and these will probably be the first papers they present, as scholars.” So that worked. And we talked about making sure that the faculty could lecture but the graduate students would teach the novels to the people who came for the general course. And we wanted to make sure that they did not teach them with their colleague from their campus. So we always got them to meet each other. And years later, we talked about this as making sure that graduate students had an experience which got them out of being prisoners of their department. And that’s been very valuable. I had met and knew several excellent scholars in Jerusalem, and we immediately asked the Hebrew University to join the Xxxxxxx Project because of this very fine work. And mind you, that was when Xxxxxxx was still regarded as the great entertainer, so there was all this question about, “Well, you’re not really working on Xxxxxxx. He’s not serious.” We were changing that. Hebrew University said, “You know, we would be delighted to send a faculty member and two graduate students every summer, but it’s a long way, and it costs a lot more money for us. Could we be forgiven the contribution to supporting the administrative part?” So we said, “Sure, as long as you agree to have a conference on Xxxxxxx in the next five or six years.” And that turned out to be a very good thing for them and for us. So, again, we created this network where people would come and lecture, and talk, and meet each other, and get to see what they were doing. I kept saying, “This has got to be not just a conference but a scientific laboratory. And we need to use that model.” The scientific model means that just as people do all kinds of things in a lab, they also go and visit each other’s labs and learn from each other, so that this couldn’t be just a standard conference. And it’s developed in that way. It’s got major research lectures. It’s got a general course that’s open to the public. And Xx Xxxxxx kept saying, “You know, there are people who have read an...

Yeah. But he asked for his interest from his granddaughter. The story of love is the story of my father’s love for his father, for my grandfather. My father just about worshipped the man. He wanted to be like him. He never could manage to be like him, because my grandfather was a big figure. My father tried to join the clubs that he joined, or tried to be that person that all the men came to, and it was never the case. But he hadn’t grown up with his father. His parents weren’t married. He came to live with his father, I think, when he was about seventeen, and he graduated from high school in the community where his father lived. It was finding his father, and showing that kind of love and admiration for him. That was the strongest representation of love that I had ever seen as a child. I’ve had some more experiences since then. But that relationship between my father and his father was so strong. Rabkin: Was it mutually strong?

Yeah. Great story. When I came home from Kenya in October (he’d left maybe in August), he was wearing pimp clothes: the wide hat, the brocade shoes, the fancy clothes. And women were going braless. This was ’72, ’73. He says, “Now you should wear hot pants and go braless.” And I went, whoa. I said, “I don’t think that’s me.” I went back to Kenya. I had a hot-pants suit made out of black cloth, and I got African beaded belts to wear with it. I come back and I’m going to go braless in my little tank-top thing and my little hot pants—and he’s a Muslim. Rabkin: Oh, my goodness. (laughs) Xxxxxx Xxxx: (laughs) “Cover up. Cover your head!” (laughs) Yeah. So much for that. Don’t pay attention to this man anymore. (laughs) I’m pretty sure that some of my language about the devil comes from that experience of trying to figure out a way to be in the world. At that point, I really did set myself in opposition to him. I wore long clothes all the time; I oftentimes covered my hair. I was not going to join the Nation of Islam. I was not going to abide by the kinds of culinary habits. For example, I didn’t feed him pork, and I did eat it. And, of course, when I was pregnant with my daughter, I was going, well, should I eat bacon, because it’s his kid? And he goes, “My mother ate bacon.” (laughs) And he smoked dope, too. So he was not the best Muslim. That was a big piece of it. He was active in a group, the Association of Black Psychologists, and they did a book called Even the Rat Was White. (laughs) Their world was so oriented toward race that I didn’t want it. And they were extremely sexist. I mean, not to mention that they had to be represented by the way these women look, right, and if these women don’t do these things, then they are damned. I realized that I was never going to buy into his kind of theology or his philosophy, but I could try to accommodate him as much as possible. I left him when our daughter was four years old. But we had been together for a number of years by then, because I got married when I was twenty-- and she was born when I was almost twenty-nine— I was thirty-three when I left him. So we’d been together for a long time. And the divorce didn’t happen until another four years after that. So it was a really long time, from the time that I was twenty years old, to be with him. A lot of that was really influencing me. In the short story I gave you, the civil rights movement doesn’t figure in very much, except to the extent that I felt that people wante...

Yeah. Xxxxxxx: And you have to take so many things into consideration when you hear my perspective on anything. Because I am not speaking for entire peoples. That was just so fucking annoying. And it happened to all of us when we were the only person of color in the class. It would make me angry, resentful, that I was the only person of color in the class. It was scary, to open your mouth because many times I found out later the notion or assumption was I was a spokesperson for an entire people. It was a frustrating experience being a solitary Chicana in some of those classrooms. And in our classroom we wanted students to not be frustrated that way but be able to talk about, not just grammar, but to be able to see the grammar in poetry, or to be able to see the grammar in a historical article, or an op ed piece, or whatever—to be able to see beyond the grammar and getting to the content itself, and putting the two things together and how if you didn’t have this verb tense it would change the whole meaning of what the writer is trying to say, why the preterit is much more important than the imperfect, that kind of stuff. Xxxxxxx Xxxxxx wasn’t too much into that. He was into the self-knowledge, the identity piece, but he didn’t like to integrate it as much into the curriculum as the women that started coming into the program did. I have to say that he made a commitment to the program, to fight for the program and to be the director for the first year. But he did not want to be the only person working in the program. He wanted to get back to other classes. I guess he didn’t want to be pigeonholed just into SPSS. Because it was seen as language teaching. So he pretty much stepped out of the picture once the program got going and once I started teaching. He stayed on as director for a year and then he stepped out. Xxxxxx: And what year was that, sorry. Xxxxxxx: ’83 is when I started teaching. So it probably was around ’85 when he stepped out. And then there was this succession of instructors that were hired and that didn’t work out for various reasons. One reasons is that Spanish for Spanish Speakers pedagogy, curriculum, etc. was new. We really were a pioneering program. There was no other program that existed in the state at the university level trying to do what we were trying to do. There just wasn’t. And I think, unfortunately, that some of the instructors that came into the program had the same backward notions that the students did. When we first started at UC...

Yeah. I know a number of people from London that have a lot to do with Local 104 Robarts School. Xxxxxxx, in that case, you wouldn't get the raise until you came back to work. It will be all ready for you when you come back on September 1st. While you're laid off as seasonal for the summer, you just wouldn't achieve the raise until September. Xxxxx Xxxxxxxx: Xxxxxx would like to add to that as well. Xxxxxx Xxxxxx: Xxxxxxx, if I just might add one thing. Your group of workers is the classic example of when workers are under threat, they come together with the union. The demonstration schools join in with family groups all across this province. We fought off the employers attempts, the government's attempts to close the schools. The fight will go on probably for several more years. For the previous caller, this is an example where workers are under threat, they will rise up. They will do the things they need to do. Again, this time, this is an opportunity to have that choice where you don't want to go down that road or take the deal. Xxxxx Xxxxxxxx: Okay. Thank you, Xxxxxx. I have Xxxxxxxxx in Hamilton asking a question about the wage freeze. Xxxxxxxxx, what is your question, please? Xxxxxxxxx: Hi there. I'm actually just curious about the current collective agreement because of the wage freeze, I'm about $3 away from being at the top rate. I've been with my employer now six years. As of July, we do sign up with the agreement. Am I going to the top rate of the old agreement or do I just start moving the grid and will that take me another six or seven years to get to the big seven and a half increase? Xxx Xxxxxx: Hi, Xxxxxxxxx. The wage freeze is done, January 1st, 2017. If you're in unified, you receive the 1.4% wage increase. Many of the folks in corrections are members. You receive the 1.4% wage increase, January 1st, a 3% special adjustment you've won in arbitration. They won an arbitration. They'll receive a 1.5% July 1st, 2017 if this tentative agreement is ratified. You could say it this way, a 5.9 for many in corrections and 2.9 for unified. You'll start movement on the grid. Wherever you are, your salary rate, you'll get a 1.5% increase on what you're making now. Starting January 1st, 2018, you start movement through the grid. Whenever your anniversary date comes up, you'll get a bump up on pay. Starting January 1st, 2019, the 1% startup every six months. You will get a raise. You'll be the one of the folks that'd get a raise in 2018 but sorry, there was t...

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